Steph Irwin is a mom and a caregiver of two neurodivergent children. She works for a nonprofit who supports children with cancer and their families. That could be your caregiving journey or just life in general. Dr. Becky Kennedy says resilience happens in the space between not knowing and knowing.
Steph Irwin is a mom and a caregiver of two neurodivergent children. She works for a nonprofit who supports children with cancer and their families. Happy caregiver Thursday to all of you guys.
Do anybody feel like they are in the messy middle right now of now? That could be your caregiving journey or just life in general. Dr. Becky Kennedy says resilience happens in the space between not knowing and knowing. She says that greatness comes from the length of time in this learning space.
Good morning Cadre family. Happy caregiver Thursday to all of you guys. I don't have my hug and mug, my coffee or tea with me this morning, but I do have my hug and mug, my water. So that is my, my morning, my morning self care this morning. I hope this Thursday finds you all well and it's good to see you guys on here. So for those of you I have not met yet, I am Steph Irwin and I live in Savannah, Georgia. I'm a mom and a caregiver. Good morning, Jules. I'm a mom and a caregiver of two wonderful neurodivergent children.
I have a son who is a 11 and a daughter who just turned 8. Good morning, Kelly. Good morning sunshines. And my daughter was diagnosed with autism. Professionally, I work for a nonprofit who supports children with cancer and their families both inside the hospital as well as out in the community. And I just wanted to talk to you guys a little bit about the messy middle. Does anybody feel like they are in the messy middle right now of now? That could be your caregiving journey or just life in general.
Go ahead and type that in the chat or send an emoji or a heart. Let me know if you feel like you're in a little bit of a messy middle, because I know I am. It has been a messy middle probably for the last, the last few weeks over here at the Irwin household. So, but you know, we are, we are getting, we are getting through all the things. We are, we're doing it, but we're definitely in the, in the messiness right now. So I don't know if those of you, if any of you follow Dr. Becky Kennedy, but she is a clinical psychologist, she's an author, she's the founder of Good Inside.
She is a wonderful, wonderful resource for parents as well as, you know, just for general parenting and then just overall human relationships. So if you guys haven't heard of Dr. Becky Kennedy, I encourage you to, to look her up because she's just such, such a wonderful resource and I have her book called Good Inside and it is, it is fabulous and definitely a must read especially, especially for those of us parents. So she, I recently heard about this talk she did at Duke University for Duke students.
And so I decided to listen to it. It's just a two minute clip. I want you guys to listen to it too. And she speaks on resilience and she asks how resilience feels. She says that being resilient doesn't really feel resilient. It often feels really, really messy in the moment. And resilience happens in the space between not knowing and knowing or not being able to and being able to, if you want to look at it that way. She calls this learning space the learning space, which in my mind has some similarities to what JC Talks about with his thin space.
And she. She talks about the learning space. And she says, we often want to skip through this learning space because sometimes it can just feel really painful, and we want to jump to the other side immediately. So this is where she says that resilience occurs is in this learning space, in this between not knowing and knowing and this between of not being able to or being able to. And she says in this learning space, there is one feeling associated with it, and it's frustration. And I don't know about you guys, but sometimes when I'm feeling in the messiness and in this space in between it, I.
I do. I can feel frustration. And she says, and that's. That's when we know we are in this space in between. And she says, it's, you know, you get these ups and downs in between this, this, this in this learning space. And she says we can learn to love the. The frustration frustration phase. And what she calls is frustration tolerance. She says that greatness comes from the length of time in this learning space. So, you know, this messiness space that we feel, that we can feel like we're in right now.
And that is where she's saying that the greatness can come. And I know sometimes that can be hard for us to see when we are in this. This phase of maybe frustration, maybe, you know, where we're trying to build resilience, and sometimes it's hard to see the other side. And sometimes we may just feel like running away. But she's saying that this greatness is coming from this. This space that's in between this learning space. So I encourage you all to listen to this. I know a lot of us can feel frustrated sometimes while we're in this maybe in between phases and in whatever messy middle we may be in in our lives.
And I just want you guys to know that you're not alone, that we are all in this together, and we are building our frustration tolerance together. Like Dr. Becky says, we're building this resilience, and even when it feels really messy. So that is my. My little nugget for you guys. Jules, you're in the learning space with your knee. Oh, yeah, that's hard because you're being forced to physically slow down so you're not able to do what? You know, be as active as you would normally like to be. Yeah, that's definitely a forced.
A forced time to slow down. Hey, Speak wonder. Good to see you. Good morning. All right, you guys hang in there. And I want you to check out Dr. Becky Kennedy's talk that she did at Duke. It's literally two minutes, but it's so powerful. It's amazing. Okay, you guys have a wonderful Thursday. I'm sending you much love, so cheers from my hug and a mug to yours. Y'all take care.
